Re: do we have free will?
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premise 1: God exists outside of time.
premise 2: God can see the beginning and end of time (from premise 1).
premise 3: Therefore, God knows what everyone will do (from premise 2).
conclusion: we have no free will.
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You can know what will happen without the ability to affect the outcome.
Other problems with your argument:
1. You presuppose the existence of G-d.
2. G-d, assuming his existence, could have programmed free will into mankind's existence.
[/ QUOTE ]Yup. But if you meant something like
"God exists, in an infinite time span.=given.
Our existence and very material make up is a condition outside of our control. Our condition such as brain construct and thus decisions we "choose" with said brain were outside of our control when being made. Thus we cannot make a choice independent of anything. Thus no free will."
Then I would have to say that's exactly what I have been thinking and why I beleive free will is an illusion.
The god I state as a given is some kind secular or otherwise element or force which created that which is.
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