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haha, I didnt namecall.

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I did though. I called you "moran". The use was intended to be slightly tongue in cheek, since it 'OOT's own insult', almost an honour. But it would have been impossible to parse this in the context so I no doubt came off as more of a [censored] than I really am. Apologies.

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I said he was coming across as an ahole because of his insult to tony p.

I said that the people who would go through all that trouble to show that it was sarcasm look like morons for attempting to make the excuse.

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Tony P responded flippantly to me, so I flipped him off. I think that's fair play.

It was perhaps 30 seconds work on google to find that reference, so it was not much trouble at all.

By the way, you make a distinction between saying "you are a moron" and saying "you look like a moron" that seems to me a bit of a dodge.

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no no its not a dodge.. I was actually trying to help out. Sometimes I'll say something meant in jest or just unthinkingly and it'll come off ahole-ish when it wasnt meant that way.

So I wanted to actually let you know, in case you werent meaning it that way (which it turns out you werent).

and I dont think ANYONE should EVER take it seriously when people deliberately say "moran".