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Old 10-07-2005, 08:05 AM
benkahuna benkahuna is offline
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Default Re: First Ever Time Playing Limit.. and it will be in a Casino.

Behemoth,

Everyone's advice here is excellent. SSHE is the [censored].

I started out in NL and have played limit online and in casinos after playing NL.
I think the most important thing for you to do is not even to read SSHE, but to learn how to reconceptualize how you see HE. I think the differences between limit HE and NL HE are bigger than those between PL omaha and NL HE. It's a very different game and you're going to have to get used to suckouts, not being able to protect your hands, and the much lower usefulness of aggression. Until you do and you can handle how this changes the game (and how stupid your opponents will be), I'll bet you'll have a rough time at limit.

But, maybe I'm just speaking to my own experience. I've been playing 6-12 limit lately at a local cardroom and have also played 3-6 at a number of cardrooms. If you play around these limits you'll find that people play consistently poorly and will often call you down when you're obviously strong, not be surprised when you've flopped a set and river a boat, yet still complain about it.

Play like you expect to get called on the flop with any pair and have people try to hit 2 pair even as late as the river.

SSHE is awesome, but you need time to do a few things:

1. Practice the theory.
2. Get used to the different environment that is live HE (and not just tells--it feels very different).
3. Get used to the differences between limit and NL.

I read WLLH first and played some limit online. I never followed the tightness of the advice in that work. I suspect almost no one does which actually makes it a better work than most people would guess. I think Lee Jones may have considered that most people will play looser than any advice given (because who wants to fold, it's more fun to play!) making it a better work than it initially appears to be. I read SSHE after that and had to adjust a little bit to play more like SSHE recommends (and I think its recommendations are optimal).

Best of luck to you! I wouldn't expect to definitely win at first because it's what you're doing is very different from what you're used to doing. Hope I'm wrong! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If you're worried about tells, just watch the players on the flop and not the flop. Try not to react to the cards. Just play how you would and take advantage of the superstitions and uncritical thinking of your opponents. They'll tell you what they think about you, often directly.

Betting patterns will generally tell you MUCH more about someone's hands than tells.
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