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If the majority thinks that the earth is flat, is the earth flat?

[/ QUOTE ]Are you saying that human rights are scientifically determinable? This I'd like to hear.

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Yes. Human rights follow logically from property rights, which follow logically from self-ownership, which is self-evident.

If you don't own yourself, how can you engage in debate? How can you do research, examine evidence, formulate opinions, and present them? How can the one you are debating listen to your arguments, consider them freely, and accept or reject your arguments if he doesn't have self-ownership?

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Science & Philosophy are not the same thing. You are a bit confused. Do you see how the earth being flat is something that can be disproven using science, but that "self-evident property rights" can't?

I sure hope so.

Anyway, it's funny that you think your philosophy is fact, and not up for debate, therefore you get to dictate what laws are oppressive and which aren't. Do you see why this is absurd? Probably not.