Ccx just wanted to add I don't at all equate 5 unit plays with games of the century etc. At absolute best, they are top games of the week and I've stated at least once that no one should go off the deep end on those plays. I regret if people have played them at higher levels than they deserve. They have a high probability of success but I never express the sort of certitude and hubris that bills217 did on this thread.