Thanks for all the replies. I may have posted hand two incorrectly causing confusion. On the turn I was getting 16 to 1 as the SB bet and three players called before me. I posted this hand because I felt like a jerk folding on the turn. A king hit on the river and I would have won. SB had 99's. One player had AT and another had K5. If I remember Ed Miller wrote a post stating that one of the biggest flaws in SSHE players was folding incorrectly in big pots. I'm probably being results oriented but at 16 to 1 I only need somewhere less than 3 outs to call.