[Robk]

i think people may be putting words in peters mouth. in the thread where i think this rule originated, peter presented strong evidence that the worst suited hands were not always profitable.

heres the first filter:

Q7s-,J7s-,T7s-, 96s-, 85s-,74s-,63s-,52s,42s,32s:

3 way flop: total hands 381, -0.33bb/h, W$WSF 19%, wtSD 23.48, w$SD 55.06%.
4+ way flop: total hands 383, -0.31bb/h, W$WSF 14.66%, wtSD 23.04, w$SD 52.27%

even at this sample size it looks clear that this group of hands is +EV on average. but of course that doesnt mean each of the hands is +EV. heres a 2nd filter from the same thread:

I try to move out Q's and J's from that list and here are results:

3-way: 216 hands,-0.57bb/h
4+-way: 224 hands, -0.27bb/h

Of course the sample size here is small. but with the group losing money on average it seems unlikely all the hands are +EV. in this post peter wrote:

Looks like i can safely remove most trashy suited hands from defending 3-way especially when original raiser is UTG-MP and very likely to have overpair

one last filter from the thread, suited trash ( T2s 92s 82s 72s T3s 93s 83s 73s T4s 94s 84s )

3-way: 109 hands, -0.62bb/h
4+-way: 116 hands, -0.35bb/h