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Good explanations above.

[EDIT: props to Sheridan for beating me to the O8 explanation.... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]]

Extra note for Omaha 8/b, and presumably other high-low games: The winner usually has to scoop (win botha pot to trigger a kill. In some casinos a scoop itself is sufficient, I believe, while in others there may also be a pot qualifier, not sure.


I've seen people ask to be dealt out of all kill hands, presumably because they're not bankrolled to play the higher limit. I haven't really heard anyone on here address the kill's effect on one's bankroll but in my experience it can be substantial.

Also, my understanding is that a kill tends to slightly penalize someone who plays to win bigger pots in preference to winning more pots, i.e. who plays correctly. The problem is that your EV for winning a good pot is reduced by some fraction of the kill, because you're forced to post some of your winnings. You get to use it as a live blind, but it's money you have no control over so it's still a negative modification to your EV. I think I got that idea from Carson or Jones or someone like that, long before i had ever seen a kill in live action.

However, like bad beat jackpots, my guess is kills probably do more to help those of us who want to be good players by attracting gamblers than they do to hurt us.