[beenben]

I don't think wins of MTTs is a good measure of elite. For example, I've won more than five MTT tournaments but I don't consider myself elite enough to post in an elite forum. (I'm including 30 people home game MTTs).

Also, what constitutes a "win"- I won one MTT online with several hundred entries or did I get third? It depends on how you count chops.

Also, random things tend to happen at final tables, especially when the blinds get so high relative to the stacks, and variance is higher with fewer players.

A better measure might be 10 final tables or 20 final two tables. Perhaps also factor in buy-in amount and number of entires- a sort of formula.

But anyway, I'm against an elite forum or splitting the fourm in any regard.