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Old 12-03-2005, 04:07 AM
adsman adsman is offline
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Default Re: QJo EMP in a Tightish Game

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But if he reraises you that's a clear message that you're toast and you can safely fold.

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I agree with everything you said, except the above. This is the problem with raising the turn...his 3-bet means nothing, given that he's a 40% VPIP with a 3 PAF. So you CAN'T safely fold to the 3-bet, a raise WON'T knock him off his hand, ever, and you have no idea if you can raise for value. Ergo, call/call and see the cheapest showdown you can.

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Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear in my post. What I was saying was with that argument you can't be sure if he 3-bets that you're toast against this kind of player. Which makes raising the turn even worse. He re-pops you, are you toast? You don't know. This guy is too murky. So don't raise the turn. It all goes to the oft-quoted line;

"Don't bet or raise if a reraise will make you throw up in your mouth."

Call it down.
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