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Old 07-17-2004, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: You guys might find this thread interesting...

There is no bias when u just take hands down to the showdown
and in the second situation where I got my 1% I just used sims to get a better estimate I used every resource I had available Ed just assumed it was 0% his first assumption (using 23.5%) was off by quite a bit so why wouldnt this one be?

Lets forget about the numbers for a sec its difficult to determine whose estimates are closer and really irrelevant since we both say raising would be correct for ATs.

The point is hes giving advice based on a few assumptions and is not explaining the hand very well. Lets use A8s for example again he says in this situation it would be profitable to raise and thats all he says. He fails to mention how you play post flop has a direct result on how profitable it is to raise. lets say ed says not raising A8s is a 20 cent mistake (he never mentions how much it is exactly). So a new player starts raising A8s all the time in this situation but this new player is a really tight post flop player and because of ed thinks raising A8s is profitable not realizing because of his tightness it is actually costing him money.

In my opinion Ed is giving bad advice unless hes willing to explain how to continue with the hand.

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Finally, your question about "how low do you go" with the suited aces? Well, this is, to some extent, a guess... but I generally raise limpers on the button with A8s... sometimes with A7s... and usually not with A6s or lower. A7s-A4s are relatively close in value... the wheel power of the weaker hands makes up somewhat for the lack of strength... so A7s and A5s are about equal and A6s and A4s are about equal. A3s and A2s are weaker, and A8s is definitely stronger. So that's about where I stick the line, A8s/A7s.

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Again its just my estimates vs Eds (im sure most would go with ed over a nobody) but raising A7s in this situation is a mistake, KQs KJs and a few suited connectors are all better off.
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