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Old 03-01-2005, 03:32 AM
theRealMacoy theRealMacoy is offline
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Default Re: First to Act Post Flop - Counting outs

thought a little more....the ideas of whether people will fold and actions you might take are related, although not to my knowledge directly as you state (by adding outs)...

you need to count your outs seperately first, then decide what action to take based on the pot odds at that point or the implied odds you are getting (compared to the chance you will hit your hand). semi-bluff raises and betting out to protect your hand are two of the possible actions. in some situations you want to eliminate opponents (e.g., large pots, you have top pair against mulitple opponents, etc.). thus if you know your opponent(s) might fold to a raise (or check raise), this can increase your chance of winning even if you do not have the best hand at the moment.

rarely pure bluff on the flop, especially versus multiple and/or loose opponents. deciding to bluff on the end can be based on a comparison of how often you think your opponent will call/fold with the pot odds you are getting.

once again, you may better off thinking in terms of your pot equity with regard to what actions to take, especially when you make a hand, rather than adding outs based on whether you think people will fold or not.

hope this makes some kind of sense...please refer to SSHE for elaboration, or some more experienced players can jump in here...

i am sure there are previous threads for pot equity

cheers,
RM
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