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Old 12-01-2005, 03:42 AM
mmcd mmcd is offline
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Default Re: reconsidering a value bet

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Call the flop raise the turn check the river.

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When you are ahead here, you think this guy is on a draw more often than a PP or complete air?

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good point. i think the answer is no. seems like ppl are on complete air all the freaking time these days. my new line is straight calldown.

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How are your bluffs, if you ever run them, going to have any credibility (from a game theory standpoint)? Watch out becoming too predictable post flop (ie raising when you're on air, calling when you have something).

I think the line I presented best gets you action with good hands, while also letting yourself see who CAN be bluffed out of a pot. But if you run your rare bluffs by raising on the turn, you need to do so with more than the nuts.

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I agree with all of this, but I think in this particular spot, the tradeoff in immediate ev is too much to be offset by metagame considerations. If there's ever a time where a guy is likely to be completely full of [censored], it's when he donk bets you on A22 flop.
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