[raptor517]

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Its definitely +EV to shove in a vacuum, but when you've been pushing any 2 and your opponent is almost sure to call with any king, I don't think its +EV then. Limping was probably a better play, but when you shove, shove, shove, shove, limp, you tend to get shoved on. I know I shove here without fail. I probably feared that here.

moses

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after shoving a ton, i love throwing a min raise out there, this hand screams for it imo. buuut, again, i play goofy. i def see where yer comin from tho. even so.. someone icm every pair and any hand better than K4 calling. i wanna see the numbers on it, cuz it STILL might be +ev. holla