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Old 02-18-2003, 02:27 PM
CreamPuff CreamPuff is offline
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Default Re: Purpose of props

If the cardroom is successful, it probably won’t require the use of props.

I disagree somewhat.

As you know most successful cardrooms in California
have props. Not to say that this disproves your point.

First of all, there is always an semi-unpopular game
waiting to be spread...Maybe the casino has five 9-18
holdem games, five 15-30's, but 3 live players have their
names on a 4-8 stud hi/lo list, that's having trouble
getting started.

Also there are certain times, like late at night, or
early morning when even successful rooms need props
to hold/start games.

Even in a break-even situation (part of the cycle)
the casino wins because a player is happier to be in
a game when they walk in the door (even w/ props) then
to go next door and wait 2 hrs for a game to start.

props tend to play in a tight and conservative style that promotes “no-action games,”

This may be semi-true for a 9-18 prop of higher.
But I think this statement is wrong in low
limit California games....I'd say at least 80% of low
limit props are -EV players, most of whom don't even
try to play tight for more than the first 10 minutes
of their shift.

To my knowledge props aren't really used in LV..Probably
because of the low rake structure they are locked into.
(Online sites basically have the same structure, but
deal out more hands, making it worth a props time)

I agree with you in part because I often see props
working peak hours at these successful cardrooms.
More often than not, they sit around and do nothing.
Also if there isn't much competion around, the usefuleness
of props is diminished. Certainly if they all monopolized
and got rid of them, the casino's wouldn't lose much
profit if any, but then the players just would be sitting
around doing nothing more too. Maybe it's not good
to take the crack pipe from the addict too long? *

*To paraphrase from Tommy Angelo

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