[Josh Chud]

Ive recently been on a pretty bad run of cards, and most of these scenarios where i have lost the biggest chunk has been overbetting pots against hands i know are drawing to flushes and straights etc. I play in home games in atlanta and the action here against the type of players im talking about is ridiculously loose. There is a big group of them that play any 2 cards before the flop just to hit. anyways, my friends have decided i reevaulate my plays so im here posting to see how anyone would play it differently.

2-5 NL Game, Avg stack is 500-600 dollars, you are holding about 185$.
You have QQ UTG. Raise to 25$. 2 Callers (1st to call is generally tight, doesnt call raises without *something*, other one on the button plays *anything*).

Flop is 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Pot has 75$.

My Play: I know this hand has probably hit my ridiculously stupid friend on the button. But lets assume for the moment that he has not hit the winner and is drawing (holding a 6 or 2 clubs). So i feel the right play here is to not give anyone odds to draw, i know this flop is dangerous, and i bet 100$ (~70$ left).

Anyways he puts me all in with 66 and hits an 8 on the turn.

But is there anything i can really do here? If i go all in he calls right? and if i bet something small like 50-75, he *should* call, so is my only mistake not having more money in front of me???

Next Hand:
You have 200$ in front, avg stack is 200-300$.

Very loose action player (he's too rich for his own good, always donating) raises utg to 15$, 2 calls, and i look down and see A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I call, as well as 1 behind.

Pot is about 70$.
Flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Raiser bets approx 25$. Ive played with him a ton of times, he's clearly hit a heart draw here. But whats interesting is a tight player behind him cold calls. This flop is just too ragged for him to be holding anything but a set, two pair alongside of me, or a flush draw.

My Play: I put the cold caller on a flush draw. This reduces our opponents outs to just 6! Becuase they are each holding 2 hearts (4 in their hand, 2 on the flop = 7 outs) and the Ace of hearts makes me a boat, so 6 outs. So a raise is definately in order here. But how much? The pot is now almost 100$. Pot Odds dictate i need to raise well over that, so i raised my remaining stack, approx 175$. and got called by 89hearts (the cold caller) who is on a Gut shot SF Draw. and hits a heart on the river to win. It was admitted to me by the raiser that he too was holding hearts and the winning hand had he called. So i was right, 6 outs. Did i overplay this hand?

Now my friends claim that against very loose players a more conservative approach is prudent. Allow them to see the turn for cheap or free. And then bet them out on the turn. Because bad players feel like a draw with 2 cards to come has greater percentage of hitting than what it actually is (i have asked many of these players what the odds are that they think they will hit their flush and they have all said no less than 50%) But even most "gamblers" will not gamble with one card to come if you make it too expensive. Whats amazing is that recently my friend told me he bet 200$ into a 900$ pot on the turn and the guy on the flush draw folded. Now they actually have odds to draw to the flush and they dont!

Final Hand:
You have 200$. Player to your right has 200$
its folded around, and he raises to 15$ You look down to find AK. Ive been playing with this guy for about 3 hours and ive picked up alot of tells... first, he almost *never* raises. In 3 hours i saw him limp with J's, T's, 9's, A9s and lower. But he was willing to raise an Strong Kicker like AK-AJ. #2. He always bet 50$ when he had a hand, and checked when he didnt.

So, he raises to 15$, and i reraise to 35$. We see the flop heads up and it comes: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Fish is first to act and bets 50$.

My Play: This confirms my suspicions. His raised seemed weak to me from the start, and the fact that he meakly cold called my reraise has me putting him on AQ. I think about it for awhile and realize he will call any bet i put out there. So why is all in not the right play? we have the same stack, i know he will call, and he only has 3 outs! As opposed to previous hands, (ie hand 1, where it was actually only 60/40 after the flop), our friend the fish is a HUGE dawg. So i put him all in and he calls, turns over AQ and hits a Q on the river.


So... overplayed? too fast? suggestions? what's my line on these three hands? If you think that ive just gotten unlucky and things will turn around, hey im with you, but my losses have now amassed to over 3000$ in last 3 weeks playing this way. so its been pretty ugly.