Thanks A_K, nice to see I'm not completely alone...

By nature I am a LAG so I temper the tendencies until four (probably 5) way and then let loose. But I just get bewildered HU and practically throw in the towel. Anyway trying to multitable isn't helping so I'll have a concerted "one table at a time" effort tomorrow.

I'll read the Sklansky/Malmuth text - as I should have already.

Thanks again and good luck