@jba, will we call the river when the board pairs? If so, don't we only have 3 outs for two pairs that we counterfeit but it commits us to another bb on the river?

I wasn't worried about us not closing the action, but I just wondered if there was enough value in calling.

We have reverse implied odds of calling when we hit our out and it isn't good, so does this bust up a lot of our outs?

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