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Old 10-10-2005, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw w/ mid pair....

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What if it was the same situation with bottom pair instead of middle pair?

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Then I'd call the floor manager because there are two 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in the deck [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

In seriousness though, having bottom pair dramatically changes this hand. You've lost your redraw to the straight. The 5 outs you have to two-pair/trips are now seriously tainted (the 3's are easily counterfeited). And the odds of you being ahead have been reduced to almost nothing. All you have left, really, is the flush draw and the other two A's, and you don't have the pot-odds to call.

So unless villain is a completely mindless LAG who'd push with 23o (and, yes, I'm sure we've all seen them on the odd occassion), I'd probably fold.

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Could you explain these straight 'redraws'? I'm not quite understanding how it matters.

As far as I can tell, my best straight hand is now:
A_Q_T , with the queen and ten already on the board. With this call, I'm going to need a K AND J to make it.... which is about a 3% chance to happen.
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