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Old 12-28-2005, 05:19 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: Another 6/12 B&M Hand

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I would've also bet and fold to a raise on the turn.

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I would have bet the turn too. But when it comes back raised to us, we are getting ~10/11:1 to call and have 4 full house outs and 2/3 outs to a split. Is this still a fold?

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The pot on the turn was 6.5 big bets so with the raise and the reraise on the turn I was getting 9.5 to 1 to draw to a fullhouse.
I ended up folding to the two big bets into me. My reasoning for the fold was that MP2 might 3 bet it with a 10, I figured I needed 11:1 to draw to a full house, and there were reverse implied odds with calling the turn because then if I miss my full house I am going to have a hard time folding on the river. (These reverse implied odds are only partially offset by the implied odds if I do fill up.)
What got me was that in this hand, MP2 had QJ and the button had KJ, meaning I threw away the best hand. I still didn't think my laydown was a bad one but I felt I should post it to get other opinions.

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I think you aren't very good at math. On the turn there are 6.5 BB in the pot.

The river goes:

You check
V1 bets, 7.5BB
V2 raises, 9.5BB

Now it's your turn. You are paying 2 BB into a 9.5 BB pot, meaning you aren't getting 9.5/1, you are getting half that. The way you played it, easy fold here.

If you bet the turn, and it goes raise, call, then the pot will have 11.5 BB in it, and you only have to call 1, meaning you call hoping to spike a K.
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