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in the live 6-12 game I play in, it would be perfectly appropriate to call three bets with TT. Online is way different, and higher limits different as well. Your book was written for small stakes games, and from what I can tell, live ones at that. For that, I agree completely, but until they have a pokertracker version that works in a live game, I have no stats to back it up. In my game, people are three betting and capping with J-9 suited, because they are in already, and since it is going to get there anyway, they may as well do it themselves. I am completely serious.


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i agree with this 100%... however, i'm not talking about J9s that limped and got stuck for a raise and then put in then 3rd bet... i'm specifically talking about a 10 handed game where UTG raises and UTG+1 3 bets. i agree also that it may be "perfectly appropriate"... if "perfectly appropriate" means "not -EV". the EV of the play hasn't been proven to me however.

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I don't believe Ed is saying if you are in EP1 (UTG+3) you should be cold calling with TT. I read this to mean if you are there are a a numer of people in the hand, and those people have weak raising (and calling) standards, there will be a lot of these guys going to far after the flop. If this is so, a hand like TT is reasonable.

eg.
UTG raises, UTG+2 calls,
EP1 two bets, EP2 calls,
folded to C/o who three bets, you are on the button...CALL.

I don't think Ed is betting his reputation on the idea of always calling three bets cold with TT. I interpret it to mean that at times it is OK, and you have to think a bit. If the raisers are loose, it might be OK. I think what it says in the book is reasonable for the games I play in.