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Old 10-10-2005, 05:17 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: Fold this river UI?

Against the range of hands that might be beating you on the turn (which includes primarily sets, overpairs, and AQ), you have much fewer than 5 outs on average here; it's really more like 3.5 or something like that.

Therefore, if you are calling the turn raise, you are doing so because you think that you can win enough unimproved to merit calling down. So if you call the turn you HAVE to call the river. (I don't think this is a situation where you would consider making a loose turn call hoping villain will often check the river, because I don't see villain checking the river in position often enough here.)

So your options are folding to the turn raise and calling down. This decision is very close and heavily read dependent. Against a standard opponent I think calling down is usually good in what has become a decent pot, though I certainly wouldn't take much issue with someone who advocated simply folding to the turn raise.

[P.S. I like a raise pre-flop. ]
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