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i make it 500 to go preflop v the limpers

and bet about 60 percent of his stack on the flop, call any raise.


you ran into kj kq jq whatever here, but eh- happens you still have outs and many times will have the best hand here.

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This is what I was thinking. Even if you ran into 2 pair you have something like 9 outs on the turn and probably 12 on the river if you miss the turn. Get your chips in there against shorty.