Re: River folds are cool atm.
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Why do you say that? I thought we were having an interesting argument. You really did fail to put any pot odds in your example, and the rule I quoted only kicks in at 8 to 1. So, if I was getting better than 8 to 1, I'd have to always call in your example.
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maybe I'm wrong, you just seem to keep throwing the conversation off onto bizzare tangents.
i didn't list the pot odds because they are irrelevant. we are talking about whether or not a bet is for value. in the example I listed you get value from betting only if you fold when he 3bets. It is to prove my point that there are many situations that you can only value bet/raise if you are able to fold to a raise.
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