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Getting increased folding equity on the turn would have been nice too...

It sucks when you get three-bet on the turn....

If he three-bets you, you've got a tough decision to make...

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Dave, nice to "see" you. How's NL treating you.

My point was it's going to suck to get 3-bet ANYWHERE in this hand, except the river, because Hero doesn't have anything until the very end.

Raising the flop, especially if you get 3-bet is going to tie you to the pot. otoh, you're pretty well tied to it, anyway, with call it 12 outs, I s'pose.

Without a read, though, against him open-betting into a PFR, my assumption is that he's made a hand (JT/TT/44...I'd figure he'd 3-bet JJ) on the flop, and your FE is somewhere in the neighborhood of zero no matter what you do. And, has been said many, many times in this forum, it's pointless to try and put a play on the average .5/1 Party player without a very strong read that it'll work (I guess you did say that in your disclaimer).

So, what'd he show you Rinera? I know YHIG, but what were his cards?