Well, if you saw them in 1984, then my memory is not as fuzzy as I thought it might be about Flynt and Stu at the old Dunes. I think it might well have been about that time, perhaps even a few years earlier. I got up to play golf (used to love that Dunes course) and walked by the poker room at 7 AM on Friday, 7AM on Saturday, and 7AM on Sunday and Flynt was there all 3 times, hadn't left, according to the floorman.