Re: Newb wrap question
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Long ago I published a wrap nomenclature, which bears repeating in such circumstances:
English wrap - 13 outs plus
American/Canadian wrap - 8 outs or less
Swedish/Nordic/Cold Country wrap - 4 outs or less
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What about the 8-12 out "wraps" what can we call those? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Anyway, I think Dave is saying that your "wrap" isn't so great. You are blocked at the high end so you really don't have that big of a wrap. Also you don't even have any backdoor flushes. Fold looks good.
It actually turns out that against opponents specific hands you had a slightly +EV situation cause there sidecards sucked and only blocked one of your outs. But this is probably your best case scenario unless villians are complete donks playing on hold'em hand values. At best you have a slightly positive situation with a lot of varaince. You could easily have been in a worse situation here if their sidecards were coordinated. Also you could have been up against one set and another "wrapish" hand like yours which would be even worse.
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