Re: The old call then raise then fold
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Nah, too weak. Call. You'll be surprised how many times people will bluff their middle pair here.
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Bluff into three possible callers (including the turn raiser...)? Maybe it's a bluff, but I would be surprised. MP3 posted, so he could have a wide range of hands. The river completes a flush and a straight. Also, if MP3 posted, you probably don't have a clear read on him (unless you've played with him before)...
I think it's a bit of a toss-up, especially since you're getting about 15:1 to call. Personally, I would probably make this call (at the very least you'll get to see your opponent's cards, which buys you information...)
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