[Noodles]

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Jason Pohl says that the only climate in which loose-passives thrive is where their opponents are overaggressive. Meaning, in a hand like this, where you fire twice and then call the river bet, you are helping the loose-passive (the worst player in the game) maximize against you. Instead, Pohl suggests, wait to flop a pair and value bet the heck out of it.


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yes that is what ive been thinking,im sick of raising pf,betting raggy flop,betting raggy turn thinking my overcards may still be good, and seeing 24s beat me cause they hit somewhere,

in this hand though if the villian is aggro would it be good to check turn to induce a river bluff,

i agree that with a passive a river fold is right here