[Shillx]

This post is wrong on so many levels and I'll do my best to correct them (or at least some).

#1 - People raise and 3-bet lighter in a 6max game then at a full table.

If this were a full ring game, you should be more concerned about the villians flop check/raise. His UTG raise means that he has a bigger hand. Same goes for your 3-bet. When the flop comes out KJ9 and you get check/raised you have to fear JJ or 99 or even KK more in this spot.

When the villian raises UTG and c/r's the flop in a 5 handed game, you just can't put him on a monster hand as often since he will be raising liberally preflop.

#2 - The villian isn't a good player.

Bad players will overvalue their hand in spots like this with hands like KQ or AK. They aren't thinking much about what you might hold (other then the fact that you have a good hand). What they will concentrate on is the fact that they floppped top pair with KT and thus...they need to check/raise.

If the villian were a good player, he would never check/raise the flop with K7. He wouldn't do it with something like KQ either (I wouldn't even do it with AK). To counter this, they will sometimes check/raise with a hand like AT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (so a flop c/r doesn't always mean a monster hand). So against a solid player you should never 3-bet the flop. If he has a draw, he will only be a small underdog and will not mind getting 3-bet. But those times that he has KJ or JJ or 99 he will punish you for getting crazy.

You should do the exact opposite against bad players. If they had JJ or 99, they would have check/raised the turn instead of the flop. Their flop raise almost always means one pair and you can punish them by 3-betting the flop. Bad players also tend to check/call draws so you can be pretty sure that he is drawing to 5 outs when he makes this play.

Brad

Edit...

There should also be some consideration given to just calling on the flop and then raising the turn. If you had the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], I would always 3-bet the flop. The worst time to wait is on a board like...

6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] -- Why?

There are too many turn cards that can come to freeze him up. He might decide to check/call a broadway turn card and that sucks if he has a hand like 88. The best time to use this play is on a drawless board with a high card. So...

K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

is a good time for this play since there aren't many scare cards in the deck. A flop like KJ9 is tricky because it is tough to follow through should a K-9 hit. It is better to get the value now with the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] since you should probably just call if a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] were to hit. If he makes a flush and you don't have the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], you are drawing dead and you can fold to his turn 3-bet. I would feel sick putting 3-bets in on the turn drawing to just 7 outs.

Edit 2 - Don't even consider folding this hand.