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Old 12-16-2005, 02:48 PM
mindflayer mindflayer is offline
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Default Re: Tricky spot with KK...??

this is NOT 100% push on the turn.
is this the hand you put villian on?

lets assume thatvillian can only call the flop raise with the nut flush draw or a PP 33,44,.. up to QQ.
lest also assume that he would have folded 55,66,77,88,99 to your reraise. that leaves him with 33,44,tt,jj,qq.
so lets cancel the 33,44,tt with JJ and qq (and the small possibility he called with one of the other pairs)and isolate the AKs and AQs hands.

Turn the hands OPEN and do some calculations before you say its 100% push.
pot is 152, villian has 91.. you go all in
pot is now 243 and villian has 91. villian has 12 outs.

Villian must have a deeper stack for you to make it a wrong bet for him. give him $50 left instead and he MUST call.
give him 200 and now it is a mistake for him to call....
91 left you tell ME!

next time you guys say it is 100% push, tell me WHY you think it is. untill someone posts some logic for pushing .. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]-1 for all you who said 100% push.
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