You need to put in a link to the original discussion because your post here is incoherent. You say

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Notice that Grey hasn't really refuted what I claimed and in fact I think he more or less supports what I claimed.

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But there is no "claim" shown. All that's shown is a question, "Which party has the most liberal stance on abortion rights?" So, sorry, I can't "notice" whether Grey refuted anything. From this post it just looks like you're talking past each other.