[Jdanz]

meh, i don't know how i feel about unions, i know they make the outcome less efficent, but you can look at manchester england in the early 1800s if you want to see what happens without them in poor urban areas.

In "real" capitalism unions are bad things, because anyone can become a producer, in today's world the owners of capital have such an advantageous bargaining position that pure free market capitalism has (IMHO) some serious distributional issues.