[Student Caine]

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I would not lay this one down and I don't think it is wise against anyone - whether or not they are a 2+2'er. If I had planned on Bet/Folding I would have simply used that 1BB to check/call.

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This is missing value bets. Against a passive opponent, if you bet and are raised on this river, you can fold pretty easily. If you check and your opponent checks behind a T they were planning on calling with, you've missed a bet.

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Understood. I am not saying that I would not bet this river (I would), but unfortunately for my bankroll I am still not good enough to bet/fold this even against a passive opponent. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] There is just too much in the pot here.

All-in-all though I don't consider BVT to be a passive opponent so I would still bet, but simply call a raise (as opposed to re-raising).

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I re-read all of this this morning and just wanted to say thanks Shant for pointing out the potential for missed value bets. Right now I have a huge leak in my game because I do not bet the river for value often enough. Thinking seriously about this hand if I were to have played it either live (when I am in the heat of the moment) or online (where I only have 30 seconds to act) there is the potential that I would not have value bet it (obviously when I am sitting here at my pc weighing the options for 15 minutes in a hand which I have no real stake in I can make a much more objective decision).

The concept of bet/folding in this situation is still too foreign to me (another leak in my game). The bad news is it costs me money, the good news is that I recognize it as a leak and realize that I need to overcome these type of leaks to improve my game. [/Student Caine's lame self affirmation]

Thanks again for pointing out the value bet issue and sorry that I just kind of ignored it last night.