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if you don't have odds to call the river, I don't see how you have odds to call the turn.

my point is you should call the river, KJ is very possible here.

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I think KJs is the only reasonable hand I beat here, though a chop is possible. He's a good player raising two limpers out of the SB and he's done nothing but bet and raise.

I called the turn not trying to spike, but still trying to work out if I was behind. When he bets the river, I think I'm not winning.

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I am raising KJo out of the SB vs two limpers with a TAG BB a LOT, and KTs/KTo against the right limpers/BB. and i'm not even close to the 30/20 tags, more like 25/17.


do you want to fold the turn now?