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Old 08-19-2005, 04:31 PM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default Re: How does bets being 2-5 change the game?

(NOTE: The B&M casinos I play in offer almost exclusively spread games ranging from 2-6 to 2-10, so I've done a lot of thinking about these games compared to most limit players)

A note on bet size: Once the pot gets to 2x the max bet size, almost always bet the max unless your opponents are fish who will call a $3 "I HAVE QUADS" bet no matter how transparent it is.

I'll go from the river backwards because there is less difference in the later streets:

Turn, River: Practically no difference whatsoever. If there's been betting at all the pot should be big enough that you should be betting the max anyway, so treat it just like a limit game.

There is one thing about the turn to notice, however: some fish have a pattern where they tend to call too much on the flop, but then fold on the turn if they don't pick anything up. I used to think this has to do with bet size, but trust me, some fish still do this even in spread limit and it's a good thing to know when you manage to get shorthanded with a whiffed AK.

Flop: Be more wary of "free card" plays, since bet sizes don't change. Even if you try a ploy of making a less-than-maximum raise to scare your opponent, they might decide to slam you back with a max raise (example, opponent bets $2, you make it $4, your opponent makes it $9) Realize that any call you decide to make on the flop will probably result in going to the river. Realize you aren't getting as good odds on your bluffs and semibluffs in unraised pots because the pot size in relation to a credible bet is usually smaller.

Preflop: Play suited connectors 45+ small pairs, and any two broadways in any position in all but the most aggressive games. Realize that limp-reraises with giant hands (AA-QQ and AKs) are more lucrative when they work and more disastrous when they fail; more lucrative because you can sometimes get a sequence of limp, limp, limp, raise to $4, call, call, reraise to $9..., more disastrous because when someone calls $2 to see a flop where they can later bet $5 or more on all streets, they're getting great implied odds if you don't know when to lay down your overpair. Personally I believe in just raising KQs and JJ to begin with.

Automatically call one raise back to you if you've limped if it's a min-raise. Don't call bigger raises unsuited bad broadways at all, and don't call with drawing hands without first figuring out if your odds are favorable (generally three or four other people need to call if it's a max raise).

Don't always raise a bunch of limpers with suited broadways. In SSH and HEFAP there is discussion about bloating the pot with mediocre hands; this effect is greater in spread limit because the bets in relation to the size of the pot are bigger, giving you worse odds on your semi-bluffs and your weak draws.

Put another way, you don't mind bloating the pot with ATs because you will usually have two overcards and a three-flush, which is enough excuse to call in a six-handed pot. In spread, however, this isn't necessarily the case; if the pot is only $10 and it's $5 to you, it's not that hard to fold in this spot.

Similarly, don't ever raise preflop with hands like 55 or JTs in the big blind except in the wildest of games; even some fish fold to a max raise after limping (making your odds on your raise worse), and making small raises is just begging to be limp-reraised (even bad players do it sometimes; I was once LRR'd out of the big blind by ATo)

General: Figure out on which streets your opponents play too loose and take advantage of it. If there is no such street (weak-tights) then quit the game, as the blinds are tiny and the rake is huge. If your opponents are playing too loose preflop, raise preflop more (cold-calling is more expensive here than in limit), if they're playing too loose postflop and ignoring pot odds, consider preflop raising less but be more aggressive postflop if you hit (getting people to call gutshots getting 2-1 is priceless).
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