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Old 12-27-2004, 06:26 AM
AleoMagus AleoMagus is offline
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Default Re: MIA report

I will definitely second the suggestions in this post.

the whole 20-30X buy in bankroll suggestion gives a 30% ROI player about a 1% ROR

not every good player is getting 30% ROI (most aren't I'll wager) and as you move up in stakes, you are going to get even less return and will want even smaller ROR (as those bankrolls are not easy to replace).

Just to give an example of what I mean, consider these numbers which give a 1% ROR (approximating a SD of 1.7 buy-ins in the calculations)

ROI | Buy-ins
5% | 133.1
10% | 66.5
15% | 44.4
20% | 33.3
25% | 26.6
30% | 22.2
35% | 19.0
40% | 16.6
45% | 14.8
50% | 13.3

Now, before any players out there say to themselves "hey, I've got a 50% ROI over 28 SNGs now, I think I'll move up becuase I have 13.3 Buy-ins at the 50+5" let me also state that I do not think any player should ever assume they are even getting a 30% ROI unless they have played over... well, a lot of SNGs. I just included those higher ROI numbers for interest sake.

Also, I think it pays to not think of your bankroll as it's actual value, but rather as the value of which you will play till a drop point.

In other words, if I'm playing 30+3 SNGs with a bankroll of $1500, to me this is really a bankroll with only 25 buy-ins, because I know that if I hit $660 I will drop to 20+2.

In this way, you can figure separate ROR figures for each buy-in and multiply those values together.

For example, the $1500 bankroll I describe would give 25 Buy-ins for $33, followed by 15 Buy-ins at $22, followed by 30 buy-ins at $11.

For me, this would be about a multitabling ROR of about 3% at $33 followed by about 10% at $22, followed by about 2% at $11. Multiplied together, this would be a ROR of only 0.006%. In other words, I'd bust completely only once in about every 16000 times from this roll.

Obviously then, your ROR is greatly reduced if you can drop in limits and effectively 'restart' from a semi-new roll this way.

Regards
Brad S
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