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deep stack poker is much different from the specialized poker we play in SNGs

AND-- bad beats always happen just as often as they should...

[/ QUOTE ] But do you not understand the concept of avoiding a bad beat. I dont' think any of you do. It is possible..you know..to avoid a bad beat. And there are...you know....ways to lay down a good hand. When is the last time any of you made a fold you were proud of?

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At the 22's getting fancy is one of the things that can kill you. There are a lot of people here that are making very good livings playing "like robots" -- and it doesn't matter that they play like robots. Here are the reasons why:

1) Playing SnG's for a living is a matter of vast quantity. You follow ICM because it's far more precise than your instincts or what you think you've learned about a specific player over the course of 50 hands. You follow ICM because it's what will make the most consistent money over the LONG HAUL. Keep making your "good folds" that go against the math -- after 100,000 tournaments you'll have gone broke ten times over (or at the very least failed to make nearly as much money as you could have).

2) The reason guys like Hellmuth make the "big laydowns" is because they a) aren't playing 22 SnG's at Party Poker and b) are playing against much tougher, craftier opponents and c) are playing deep stack multi-table tourneys. You sound very much like you're generating your playing strategy from Norman Chad broadcasts.

3) Another reason you MIGHT make weird plays on the WPT is because players will notice if you play the same way and will exploit your tendencies. That is simply not the case for 99% of people playing 22's on Party. The value laying something like this down might have is simply not there.

You can continue to think what you like, obviously...but this is a clear push in this situation. There are times when there's more than one right answer and healthy debate is called for (not that you've given any game-specific reasons why you think this is a fold). There are other times where the answer is quite clear. If you can recognize the clear times and then act accordingly, you can do quite well. Best of luck.

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I agree completely. 2callzU I don't understand why you are so high and mighty in every single thread that you post in. If you think that you are so much better than everyone in this forum then leave. You're not doing anyone any favors by posting things without explanation and then criticizing others for questioning you.