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Old 09-21-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Quick pf question

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I'm not quite sure what about this you don't understand, but remember...

"Sklansky's Fundamental Theorem of Poker:
Every time you play a hand differently from the way you would have played it if you could see all your opponents' cards, they gain; and every time you play your hand the same way you would have played it if you could see all their cards, they lose. Conversely, every time opponents play their hands differently from the way they would have if they could see all your cards, you gain; and every time they play their hands the same way they would have played if they could see all your cards, you lose."

Capping more hands means your opponent will have to put you on a wider range of hands and will not be able to play as correctly against you.

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Yeah, that is true. I didn't express myself well wnough. I'll give it a shot and we'll see where we end up.

You want your opponents to think (know) you have a monster. But you want him to think you have an even better monster.

When your opponents hold Ax, Kx, Qx postflop and the flop hasn't pair them, then you want them to believe you have AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ, or anything that dominates them, so that they will _incorrectly fold_. You don't want them to know you have JJ or think that you have something worse, because if the do that, then they will probably _correctly call_.

When they hold Tx, 9x, 8x, 7x, 6x, 5x, 4x, 3x postflop and the flop hasn't paired them and hasn't given them any gutshot, then you want them to call. So you want them to not know you have a monster. But the thing is that a T-high no-draw hand will fold to a flop bet no matter if they think you have a monster or not.

This doesn't cover all aspects, but enough of them. So the conclution is that we gain only when they incorrectly put us on hands that are more scary to them than JJ is. We gain nothing when they put us on hands that are less scary than JJ is.

If you still don't agree, or if what I have written is too unclear then please tell me why you think it is good for us to hide the strenght of our hand. What are the pros? What are the positive effects to us from the FTOP in this situation?

thanks for discussing dave44! I enjoy it and appreciate it!


EDIT: I don't think anyone cares, but I'll write it anyway, like I often do. The longish posts I write get no (or one) responses most of the time [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. It's understandable. I don't read most long posts either. They take time. But I feel there is no point in posting longish post for discussion. And it's kind of "sad" because when I write long posts that is generally where I want to discuss the most. But from now on I'll (almost) never post anything longer than 2 lines. I mean, there's no point. And when there are 2 lines in my replys, the last one of them will be of smirk nature [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]. I need poker friends [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].
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