[scdavis0]

As stated clearly in my original post, I said that yes of course, you can start leading with all sorts of stuff.

However.

You can just as easily check/call the flop and lead the turn with all sorts of stuff. You can check/raise the flop with all sorts of stuff.

I simply contend that either of these are stronger default lines out of position over the long run.

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i mean, youre serious right?

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Serious as a heart attack brother