[stripsqueez]

i dunno about the pre-draw slowplay to get the big bet in - not just this hand but generally - i have more or less done without it to date - if i was going to try the pre-draw slowplay i would prefer to have a rock

i would 3 bet - this would be getting close to a fold though with say 3 guys behind me (probably anxious to call) and no prospect of stealing the blinds

stripsqueez - chickenhawk