Re: Is this really bad? 5/10 6max
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I'm not saying I fold this preflop. But it's closer than everyone is giving credit for. Basically you don't have the iniative against a hand that is likely to have you dominated. You'll fold the best hand sometimes when the flop misses both of you. You'll lose a lot when you flop a second best ace. And you'll win a little when you flop top pair. It's not a real good spot.
Krishan
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Exactly. I certainly understand the table image aspect of it, but I don't think it comes up enough to present that much of a problem. When you do decide to play back at people after making this fold, they'll give you more credit for a hand. These people saying it's a very very bad play are mistaken IMO. You get killed in these situations when you're playing your crap low pair to the river and it's no good. I think the preflop fold is probably -EV, but not by much. And thanks for the skirt comments, those were cute.
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