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Old 12-29-2005, 08:12 AM
Jonny1723 Jonny1723 is offline
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Default Flopping Middle Pair - What to do ???

I’d appreciate your opinions on every street please, but in particular the river – I struggle to know when to “raise for value” on the river.

This is probably due to my brain remembering the vast amount of times I’ll bet the river to be raised by someone along for the ride, and have to make the crying call.

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The only read I have is that MP3 is very passive and only raises when he has a made hand, but he will call to the river with almost anything.

Bet365 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 Folds, Hero Raises, 1 Fold, MP3 Calls, 2 Folds, SB Calls, BB Calls

<font color="green"> Pretty standard I would have thought.</font>

Flop: (16 SB) J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB Checked, BB Checked, Hero Bets, MP3 Called, SB Folds, BB Raised, Hero Called, MP3 Called.

<font color="green"> This happens often, and it’s something I’m not really sure about – I flop middle pair with a good kicker.

I usually choose to bet out to give me an idea of where I’m at – Is this the correct or should I generally check it ? I tend to feel that by betting out, it will put those who may have top pair weak kicker on the defensive. Is this naïve at these limits ?

As I was C/R by the BB here, I wondered what he might have, but without any reads thought Top Pair most likely.

Should I have folded here without question ?</font>

Turn: (14 BB) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB Bet, Hero Called, MP3 Called.

<font color="green"> Looking back at this hand, I feel I made a big mistake calling here. However, I can only assume I looked at the pot size and decided to call for one bet. (I knew with MP3 being so passive, there was no chance of a raise). </font>

River: (17 BB) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB Checked, Hero ?

<font color="green"> This is a good and bad card for me as it gives me top two pair, but also puts 4 to the straight. With BB checking I thought my Top Pair read was good. However, with MP3 still to act and calling this far I had a feeling he may have a K, and would therefore bet out.

What is your action here – Check behind / Raise ? And why ?</font>

Final Pot: ?? BB

Results = I will post later.

J.
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