BTW, PoBoy, I understand what you're trying to say is that if you're representing JT he'll bet turn. But even if he puts JT in your hand range after you check turn, he's still likely to check behind -- he's just not going to assign JT enough probability after you lead flop for 2/3 pot into PFR and 5 others. Only way he's going to bet here is if he has a hand that would have called a turn and river bet from you anyway. And even if he does bet, what are you going to do then? Raise? Call and lead river? You can't call and check river, he'll check behind with lots of stuff. Either line is much more likely to induce a fold IMO than just betting turn and river.