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I guess this gets to the heart of the matter, too. I was curious how many 2+2ers play their own cards in this spot, and how many factor in what their opponents have.

This hand is more about what the villian has than what you do.

The raise could be wrong, but I think it'd be good for people to think of this hand in terms of what villian has too, and not just what you're holding.