[ossie99]

Thanks for the imput guys. Just to clarify, I'll give you my real game scenerio, which brought me to this; I'm sitting QJ suited on the button. I have one mid-position limper, I limp, and both the blinds come in. Flop comes A,10,9. Rainbowed. Mid position Bets out, I come over the top and raise(3 times his bet) esentially this erases any value of buying the freecard at the turn b/c even if I miss and he checks, I've still payed 1.5 times the bet. However, in this instance, both blinds fold and the mid-position pushes in a massive bet. With the QJ both discounted(assuming that hes on the Ace and possibly/likely 2 paired, my only shot is the 8 outs to the str8. Pot odds are shot, and I've sacrificed without ever getting to see the turn or river. Where did I go wrong. Unlucky, maybe. But this has happened a few occasions so I'm beginning to doubt the values of semi's in a NL larger staked game. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]