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Old 12-31-2005, 04:43 AM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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Default Re: Do I need to pay this off??

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And you didn't bet out on the flop because? You needed to narrow the field and gain info on the flop. Bet it.

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So your advice is, having raised, to auto-bet every single flop regardless of the cards? If not, can you give me an example of a flop that's worse for continuation betting?

Checking this flop is a smart use of position.


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If the villian has any piece of the board he's not folding the river.

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If this is true it's a good reason to value bet the river.


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Are you probably beat, yes. Are you guaranteed beat? No.

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You need a lot more markings on that scale.


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Villian could have Ax smaller than you or ?

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There are four Ax smaller than you that aren't two pair, and two of those make top pair plus OESDs that are much more likely to raise the turn than the river. This raise is quite simply a better hand or a bluff.


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I really think a better line is to check call the river, especially against an unknown.

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I don't think check/calling this river is terrible, but I think bet/folding is better.

Check/calling makes its money from busted draws that bluff and brave pairs.

Bet/folding makes its money from scared pairs. At these stakes, I think there are more pairs that happily take a free showdown then there are pairs that make a tough value bet on a scary board or missed draws that bluff.

/mc