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Old 12-30-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Weak Overcard Play

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AQo is very tough UTG, maybe just call and hope for a short handed flop, raising can get you into trouble, if there are 2 callers even, your equity drops, and you'r out of position.

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You completely contradict yourself here. We shouldn't raise, since they might call and we're OOP in a multiway pot. So we limp, and pray that they don't limp also. The people who would have called our raise: will they call when we limp? What about the ones that wouldn't call a raise, but will limp?

Raising AQo UTG is completely standard. Knowing how to play it unimproved and out of position is the only prerequisite.

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Flop: This flop isn't too bad for AQo, your overcard outs are probably still good. I would bet and raise semibluff, protect those overcard outs aggressively.


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Protect our outs from what? Look, this *is* a bad flop for AQo: that's why advice is being sought. Q38 rainbow: that's a good flop for AQo. (unless you limped UTG, and let 33 follow suit).

There's nothing remotely semi about the recommended bet-raise bluff.

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Turn: Bet out again, keep in mind you're drawing dead to a set, but you may get a hand like 55 to fold here.

River: when the flush card hits it's time to represent it, you may get someone who has a 9 or 7 to fold. Do not show the hand down, either re-raise or fold if it is raised back to you. If it is capped fold. If you get called you're toast, but that's the danger in AQo UTG.

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This kind of advice is gonna get people burned. You're recommending doing crazy and expensive things in a small pot that we can only rarely pick up. Flailing around like a schizo with a chainsaw isn't going to win pots.

Also, you *really* can't represent the flush if you've bet-raised the flop and bet the turn. Honestly, there are a fair few words in your post, but the crib notes would read: "bet and raise, because they might fold." Thing is, they probably won't, and you're spewing a lot of chips to try to make them.
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