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clearly the fact that he was cia director alone doesn't mean you should agree with him. probably it means you should be somewhat skeptical of what he has to say. glad you're listening to him.

just like i listen to cheney but don't necessarily agree with just because he is vp.

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And so we're right back where we started. I'm asking why Turner's opinion should be held with as much weight as the OP seems to hold it. Can anyone answer this?

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for the record, i don't know if i agree with him that torture is bad.

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I don't think I agree with him either, but I think i could be convinced the other way. But it would have to be done with an argument that was a little above the level of Michael Moore which is where it seems the comments by Turner reside.