[HoldEmKillah]

But why would you fire again on the river here though? He raises the flop then calls your big reraise and your almost pot-sized turn bet. It don't look like a draw to me. To me it says "I have a Q and I'm not layin' it down." So why bet the river?

This is what I'm talking about when I say "show me a good bluff." In Kagame and MoDOH's hands, there were clearly succussful but I think, in both cases, they were lucky not to get called down on the end or c/r'd on a previous street.

So we have all heard that bluffing is about telling story about your hand that you want your opponent to believe. Does anyone have a hand like that where you can walk me through the entire thought process? It would help a great deal since, as I said, my bluff stories suck.

btw, AZK I'll look for that commerce thread. Thanks.